nocar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:42 am
My professional notes originate from reading and interpreting medical articles, textbooks and lectures, and from preparing lectures, articles, handouts, etc. This be my Personal Knowledge Base. My professional notes also include notes from academic, faculty and student meetings.
Interesting! I’m asking myself. How does manage the notes related to medical articles? Assuming the articles being stored inside MyInfo as well. I personally struggle with this. I like to bundle my notes with the article. A bit undecided how: but for example with an outline note type.
nocar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:42 am
My personal notes are my PIM -- Personal Information Management system. These notes include information related to family, dates, tasks, contacts, receipts, home protocols, non-medical readings, etc.
Does Obisidian work as good as MyInfo in all those area’s for retrieve the information? I only glanced at it from YouTube video’s. It’s see it more or less as a ‘brainstormy’ way of thinking; lots of connections:
Receipts have less of a connection in between, in my view. More fixed category’s. Receipts a grouped under receipts (in MyInfo a database). And maybe distinctions like appetizer; main course; dessert (in MyInfo sections)
nocar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:42 am
WHY SO MANY DIFFERENT NOTE-STORING PROGRAMS?
Note-taking and storing are two-sides of the same coin for me. If I go back to when I began as an undergraduate college student writing my hand-written notes in notebooks, I have been a note-taker and note-storer for over 50 years. Yikes - that's a long time.
I am also an inveterate computer dabbler since my first computer in 1983, a Franklin Ace 1200 computer (a combined Apple II clone and CP/M computer.) I moved to MS-DOS and then Windows PCs. The note-taking, note-storing and note-retrieving computer programs I have used included dBase, Symantec Q&A, askSam, Whizfolders, Ultra Recall, and MyInfo (since version 4.) Now I use Obsidian and MyInfo 7. Why both? Because as I said I am dabbler. I am mirroring my notes in both to test and experience the strengths and glitches of each.
I start to grasp the focus on interoperability of notes. Migrating information surely having been an issue in the past. I don’t have much legacy experiences. Well I shuffled my data around couple of times. From TreeDBNotes to RightNote and largely from RightNote to MyInfo. The major struggle wasn’t exporting the notes by itself. Except for titles exceeding the file-system limit. The annoying part was the loss of the hierarchy (relations). Moving out of MyInfo would be even harder, since I start used attributes and columns.
Mirroring does seem quite a lot of additional work. Not something sustainable in the long term, I guess. I never keep things nicely in sync. I do experiment once in a while: crimping habits [1]
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https://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics ... mp-defined
nocar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:42 am
I am not a Zettelkasten convert or zealot. The way I take, store and retrieve notes has worked for me for decades. Each of us takes and stores notes in our own fashion but I still can learn how others do it.
Same for me. Note: I dislike working with tags (in the sense) of tag bar. To arbitrary/un-categorized. I do ‘tag’, but by using attributes as categorization; say using a single/multi select list.
nocar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:42 am
Getting into my thoughts about the advantages and disadvantages of the programs I have used is perhaps an article for another day.
Would probably quite extensive.
nocar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:42 am
FINAL COMMENTS
Markdown may seem like hype to some but I don't think it is a fad. Sure it is nothing more than a formatted type of plain text that can be converted with programs such as Pandoc, but that might be its strength. Plain text has been around since the beginning of personal computers. And that is a strength -- longevity -- as is interoperability between different operating systems.
PIM software being designed for certain OS is a limitation for sure. You need to use a certain OS. However I'm less concerned of Windows suddenly disappearing from the market. The software market has matured at lot since, lets say the eighties. Stable brands and lots of standardization: HTML/RTF/TXT/XML/ODT.
The minimum requirement I personally have is an option to export notes is a common format. However I prefer not using it. The power of MyInfo - or PIM software – is the search capability; hierarchical arrangement, meta-data (attributes). I can’t really cope with simply a bunch of notes.
Sidenote: MyInfo stores the information in a SQLite databases and the text is actually HTML (but unsure which specific standard). So nothing really exotic from developer perspective.
nocar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:42 am
At the start of this thread, I did not write about my concern gathered from watching many note-taking and note-storing programs disappear -- their inherent viability. I certainly hope this does not occur with MyInfo.
PIM sofware bit of market-nice. Software build by small company’s or individuals. The survival mostly depends on the well-being, the interest of the developer and the financial aspects of the enterprise.
Software development changed a lot compared to the eighties. Developing being more and more picking of the shelf (digital) components (building blocks) and assembling those together. A developer doesn’t build and maintain a RTF editor with import/export capability himself. Building and maintaining something like would be full-time job.
Building with of the shelf components is faster and easier. The downside is dependency. When you buy components of the shelf, you’re depending on the supplier. If the supplier stops supporting the component, you have problem. Not in the short term, the component keeps working, but would be unmaintained. No bug fixed, no new features. In the long run it will lose support for development environments.
Moving forward would might mean replacing the component. This can be quite problematic. So you can go easy route, slow decay, or re-invest.
MyInfo 7 has been rewritten from scratch. So intention of the developer is to keep things around.
nocar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:42 am
But that is a reason that I am mirroring my notes in a more open and interchangeable format such as plain text or its close cousin, markdown.
The choice for Obsidian surprises me. It’s totally different concept in my view. I would look at competitors in the same league RightNote, InfoQube, Mybase, CherryTree, EssentialPIM, AllMyNotes, UltraRecall. More remote: EverNote TheBrain and Tinderbox.
MyInfo is my favorite, though